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3 days ago.
by jaxspp
rshill7
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Letters To Ed :-)

"We've been duped by the Republicans. Kentucky Sen. and minority leader Mitch McConnell in a news conference one day after the election, stated that the single and sole goal of the GOP over the next two years is: to make Barack Obama a single term president. What an arrogant and obnoxious goal and statement. There agenda before the election was to get votes by promising that there first goals were jobs, the economy and health care reform. It seems their goal is to grab power, not to do things for the people that are in need of jobs and or unemployment pay, health care for those that don't have it, and the people losing their homes. This is the same party that wanted the auto plants and their suppliers to go out of business. We are just coming back from what they did to this country, and now we have them back to do the same things to our country again. What a mess the next two years is going to bring to this country. Talk about partisanship." Carl D. Leow Rogers Cit

 
 

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...and if you were charged with sorting out groups who qualified as "social welfare organizations" as groups qualifying as 501 (c)(4) are termed, would you look at groups using such obviously political terms as "tea party" or "progressive" in their names, or ones that are called, say, "We Love Kittens"?

Posted 164 days ago.

Easy. Progress Texas and Clean Elections Texas. Got the same letters, and another Emerge America, came under similar scrutiny and was DENIED, something that did not happen to the tea party groups. Delayed while investigated, yes. Denied, no. By the way, it's the IRS's JOB to investigate whether groups applying for tax-exempt status are mainly political or not, something they didn't do very well when approving Carl Rove's Crossroads GPS. If they aren't almost completely political, no one is...

Posted 164 days ago.

rshill7

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — "Fitch Ratings has downgraded the credit worthiness of Chicago’s bond debt because of its public pension problems.

Fitch dropped the rating from AA- to A- on $8 billion in general obligation bonds, backed by property taxes."

No fracking way! How can that be? Oh right, Democrats as far as the eye can see. Asked and answered.

By the way, are both former Democrat Governors of Illinois still in prison or was one let out already?

Posted 164 days ago.

rshill7

Name one progressive group that was targeted like Patriot and Tea Party groups. On the contrary, they were fast-tracked. Maybe that's what you mean. Targeted for fast-track status, to be approved in 30 days or so, like Obama's own brother, for example, who raises money for The Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted 164 days ago.

The use of the IRS for political purposes has been going on for generations, from FDR, Kennedy, Nixon (About 10,00 cases)and rose to an art form under George Bush the Younger, who was also famous for enlisting the Secret Service and FBI to punish anti Iraq war speech, notably the NAACP and a very large (liberal) church in Pasadena. None of which makes the latest issues right, but progressive/liberal groups were scrutinized too, based on their group names, just like the tea party were. They were applying for tax-exempt status under 501(c)(4), whereby they could not engage in mainly political activity, which they in all probibility were...

Posted 164 days ago.

Ooh, what stingers, the phony scandal cards.

Posted 164 days ago.

rshill7

Really? Clinton said, "Is"

Obama said "If you like your plan you can keep it. Period." But in all fairness he only said that a few dozen times, while telling each family their premiums would decrease by $2,500.00, which was somewhere near when he said he'd get to the bottom of the IRS thing, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, NSA mega-snooping, and the IRS targeting of his political foes.

Each statement about all of the above, a blatant lie.

Posted 164 days ago.

When asked about Veteran's Day, Rand Paul said, and this is a direct quote from him, "I regret that I have but one life to give to my country.".

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

It "stings" when it's your guy or girl getting grilled, but what's the alternative?

Blind trust?

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

Bottom line is that power corrupts. I don't care who you are, power needs to be checked, that is the beauty of our system.

I want Henry Waxman, Darrell Issa or any other chairman or committee to investigate the*****out of the administration, the congress or any institution or agency that holds power over our citizens.

Posted 164 days ago.

rshill7

Democrats like Jaxopthalmoscope have no reason to expect scruples, standards of ethics or morals from his side. To them, those things are stupid. They only demand those qualities from the opposition.

They constantly lie and cheat with impunity. They never claim to be honest or virtuous and it seems, as such, none is ever expected from them, either from themselves, their constituents, or their cheerleaders in the press.

Posted 164 days ago.

If anything happens with this, keep us posted.

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

Would he investigate with the same zeal as he is now. I, honestly, don't know. My best guess would be that he would with the prodding of the ranking member, but, HONESTLY, I don't know.

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

Back to the talking points.

"Obsessed"?

I'm concerned about a lot of things jaxspp. One of them is holding government accountable.

" We get it, you're obsessed with covering up for an incompetent administration". I can play that too, but it doesn't advance anything for anyone.

Posted 164 days ago.

If this had been primarily Progressive groups targeted would Issa be investigating. Be honest with yourself, if you can.

Posted 164 days ago.

Grasp, but you are also gasping.

Posted 164 days ago.

Yes, Free, we've got your pattern down. You are obsessed with the IRS investigation, and anyone not as obsessed with you must not be a patriot or a true American, and anyone who cannot see that this is the worst tragedy to strike America since the Civil War is obviously learning impaired. You, and only you, gasp that this might be the end of America as we know it.

There, have I captured the seriousness you are trying to convey?

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

"...You don't know that a crime has been committed, you are looking for a crime...." ~Jaxspp~

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

I'm not putting words in your mouth jaxspp, just stating the obvious. Based upon your statements of course.

You don't seem to want the congress to "look for crimes" when crimes have been reported by the people.

You shrug off felonious behavior by one of the most powerful civilian agencies in the country and make offensive comments about your fellow citizens trying to participate in what many of their polar opposites participate in freely without harassment.

"Tea Baggers" looking for tax exempt status? OK, you've made up your mind and there is no swaying you. You are what you are.

I don't fault you, you just, for some reason, cannot fully comprehend the concepts being discussed.

I'll state it again.

The federal government cannot impede a citizen, or group of citizens, in the lawful exercise of their rights as expressed under the Constitution.

Posted 164 days ago.

Freeman

Let's set this up. The exempt organizations division makes determinations as to exempt status based upon the applicant's reported activity with regard to political function.

There are many "Be On the Look Out", BOLO, terms and some are conservative and some are progressive.

The differential between the conservative and progressive applications pulled for scrutiny is suspicious to say the least.

Another differentiating circumstance is the length of time to get a yes or no, (if one is even given). If none is given then the applicant cannot appeal or make the appropriate modifications or remedy issues.

The worst, in my opinion, is the invasive nature of the investigations over reach into such things as the content of prayers, the text of every speech ever given at any function attended by the applicant, etc.

The facts are that the progressive groups BOLO'ed and investigated were not subjected to the ill treatment by the IRS. Either do it to all or do it to none.

Posted 164 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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