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25 days ago.
by amos57usa
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Letters To Ed :-)

"We've been duped by the Republicans. Kentucky Sen. and minority leader Mitch McConnell in a news conference one day after the election, stated that the single and sole goal of the GOP over the next two years is: to make Barack Obama a single term president. What an arrogant and obnoxious goal and statement. There agenda before the election was to get votes by promising that there first goals were jobs, the economy and health care reform. It seems their goal is to grab power, not to do things for the people that are in need of jobs and or unemployment pay, health care for those that don't have it, and the people losing their homes. This is the same party that wanted the auto plants and their suppliers to go out of business. We are just coming back from what they did to this country, and now we have them back to do the same things to our country again. What a mess the next two years is going to bring to this country. Talk about partisanship." Carl D. Leow Rogers Cit

 
 

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Freeman

The 5% annualized rate of growth is just about where it should have been all along jaxspp.

Are you understanding that concept. One year's growth rate in a 6 year recovery is not a success.

Posted 220 days ago.

Freeman

"What Obama's Growth Recession Is Stealing From Your Wallet" Forbes Magazine May, 2014

This article describes what's actually happening pretty well. It is not an Obama hit piece but lays specific blame on federal policy since 2000.

Posted 220 days ago.

Freeman

There are more people on assistance than at any time in our history.

The workforce has shrunk. The unemployment rate is a reflection of failure, not success when you look at the actual numbers.

The federal government has doubled the national debt to $18 trillion.

The direction of the country is messed up and I don't see much change coming with the new republican House and Senate based upon the "Cromnibus" spending bill they just passed.

Posted 220 days ago.

Freeman

jaxspp, took long enough?

Come on man. Growth coming out of such a deep recession should have been 4% or higher each year.

Can you set the bar any lower?

You can attempt to spin all you want but the policy initiatives have failed. Pure and simple.

The economy's "growth ceiling" was very high and the actual rate was horrific. The rich got richer off of Fed policy and the poor got poorer. The middle class took the brunt again.

Please look at the cycle as a whole, not just a couple of numbers that government supporters pick. I think you're smarter than that.

Posted 220 days ago.

Fact-Free: "The policy initiatives put forth by the current administration have put a lid on economic recovery".

Economic growth announced today 5%, highest since 2003.

Thanks for your input, FF.

Posted 220 days ago.

amos57usa

freem..Yep the republican gas tax hurts the middle class . Regressive taxes are very republican. Bush bailed out GM and gave me more stimuli but guessing is for the econ people. Econ bores me ****less and has little meaning for this old hermit. You avoided completely what matters; my assisted suicide team.

Posted 220 days ago.

Freeman

The policy initiatives put forth by the current administration have put a lid on economic recovery. I don't know of anyone who disputes that.

ACA, Cap and Trade / EPA, "all of the above" energy policy, (as long as it's not fossil fuels), Federal Reserve policy,,,, I could go on and on.

My point is this, the current administration's policy initiatives might have been fine IF the economy was in good shape and could absorb the damage.

So, in short, we are not "back" amos57usa. There is a long way to go. The middle class is getting hammered at every turn. The incentives to create and grow a business are outweighed by the demands of the government, pure and simple.

The business of America is no longer business; the business of America has become conforming to the demands of the federal authority.

Posted 221 days ago.

Freeman

I think you'd better go back and investigate what financial mechanisms caused the 2008 crash amos57usa. I know it's easy to blame Bush but it goes back way before him.

I'm guessing that you are giving credit to President Obama due to the Stimulus and the "saving of the auto industry".

The problem is, amos, that neither of those initiatives have generated growth. Thew were short term band-aids.

The U.S. economy is not in good shape and that is evidenced by the booming stock market and the abysmal job growth. Fed policies have created an environment wherein investments are limited to equity markets, leaving a huge whole in new investment in commerce. Add the ACA and all of it's uncertainty and there you have it.

Smallest work force in almost 40 years, the DOUBLING of the national debt to $18 trillion and a very weak position internationally.

Posted 221 days ago.

amos57usa

freem...You meant the Bush Great Recession left us in fiscal difficulty. Thanks to Barry we are back. Now when will I get to select my assisted suicide team. I don't want to drool in my diaper in a nursing home waiting for the Great Sky Fairy to take me.

Posted 222 days ago.

Freeman

Keep in mind that the voters have to approve of the tax hike. I think 6% is high enough. I'd prefer the gas tax and a statutory mandate that it be spent on infrastructure.

Posted 224 days ago.

Freeman

Last time I looked, amos57usa, the State of Michigan was running a surplus. I am not sure why there has to be a tax hike to fix roads unless there are statutory restrictions on how the surplus is to be allocated.

Gov. Granholm left us a huge budgetary shortfall. Nobody wants to invest in a state that is financially failing.

I'd be curious as to why the surplus is not being allocated to infrastructure.

Posted 224 days ago.

amos57usa

Among all the other taxes and fees the republicans raised and want to raise now the tax and spend republicans want to raise sales tax again after republican John Engler raised them 50%. Tax and spend and borrow and spend republicans; they don't "head fake", they lie.

Posted 224 days ago.

amos57usa

Gruber said Americans are stupid. W.Bush was elected once. Gruber is right. Freem...I'm glad you like Liz. You can't be wrong all the time. You like a tax that hurts everyone but the rich. That is very republican.

Posted 226 days ago.

Freeman

Jaxspp, can you articulate the metric by which you assert that the ACA is "working".

If you take into consideration the claims and assurances made by proponents of the ACA while it was being debated and use them as a guide, I'd be really, (truly), interested in you making the case.

Posted 226 days ago.

Freeman

I appreciate your citing the NYT and the Commonwealth Fund, both huge supporters of the ACA. You should qualify your cites. HHS has already begun to revise their enrollment numbers due to administrative errors and "double counting" anomalies due to dental coverages.

I can not see how anyone could say that the ACA is "working". It's a mess. Time will tell the ultimate tale but for now.... WOW.

Posted 227 days ago.

Freeman

Keep in mind, jax, the employer mandates have just started.

I want you to look into the "look back" periods and requirements that the ACA has placed upon employers. Look at the average costs and destruction of good health care plans because of the "Cadillac tax". The pain hasn't even started for middle class Americans yet.

Posted 227 days ago.

Freeman

I love the way you guys are running away from Gruber, by the way.

It's just too funny.

Posted 227 days ago.

Freeman

You can't miss the point any more than you have jaxspp.

The ends do not justify the means. The administration lied repeatedly to get the ACA passed. 10 million more uninsured than when we started is not "working". It works for some people but is causing major upheavals for the vast majority of Americans and blows a hole in the 10 year budget deficit. You'd better check your numbers, the Commonwealth Fund is using fudged HHS numbers.

The $800+ billion stimulus increased output and short term employment. Then what? There was no economic growth that was sustainable, the workforce shrank. The only bright spot is in infrastructure improvements. Almost a trillion dollars.

Posted 227 days ago.

Of course, Fact-free is wrong about the number of uninsured rising, but Fact-free never tires of being wrong:

"Multiple surveys indicate the number of uninsured has fallen due to expanded Medicaid eligibility and health insurance exchanges established due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as PPACA or "Obamacare". These changes took effect January 1, 2014. The Commonwealth Fund reported in July 2014 that an additional 9.5 million people aged 19-64 had obtained health insurance, roughly 5% of the working-aged population.[2] Gallup reported in July 2014 that the uninsured rate among adults 18 and over fell from 18.0% in Q3 2013 to 13.4% by Q2 2014.[3] Rand Corporation had similar findings.[4]"

Posted 228 days ago.

He obviously read none of my sources, just spouted a fountain of bumper stickers. Just because Gruber made a snarky comment doesn't mean the ACA isn't working, and he said so himself at another GOP waste of time investigation last week. Fact-Free ignored my sources that the ACA is working while posting no sources himself. And we've explained the workforce level several times WITH SOURCES, which Fact-Free chooses to ignore. He'll be back again with the same Factless posts, I'll shoot them down again, he'll come back again.

Posted 228 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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