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by Freeman
rshill7
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Letters To Ed :-)

"We've been duped by the Republicans. Kentucky Sen. and minority leader Mitch McConnell in a news conference one day after the election, stated that the single and sole goal of the GOP over the next two years is: to make Barack Obama a single term president. What an arrogant and obnoxious goal and statement. There agenda before the election was to get votes by promising that there first goals were jobs, the economy and health care reform. It seems their goal is to grab power, not to do things for the people that are in need of jobs and or unemployment pay, health care for those that don't have it, and the people losing their homes. This is the same party that wanted the auto plants and their suppliers to go out of business. We are just coming back from what they did to this country, and now we have them back to do the same things to our country again. What a mess the next two years is going to bring to this country. Talk about partisanship." Carl D. Leow Rogers Cit

 
 

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NY Times:When Republicans last controlled the Senate, in the 109th Congress, 68 cloture motions were filed (on all sorts of bills, not just nominees). When Democrats took control, in the 110th, that number went up to 139. It was 137 in the 111th Congress and 115 in the 112th. That’s totally unprecedented. ThinkProgress calculated that “3 in 10 of all cloture motions filed in the history of the Senate were filed during McConnell’s tenure as Minority Leader.” Republicans have filibustered a record number of executive-branch nominees. During the presidencies of Eisenhower through Ford, there were zero cloture votes on such nominees. There were two under Carter, two under Reagan, none under the first Bush. Then nine under Clinton and seven under the second Bush. But the current situation’s much worse: There have been 27 cloture votes on President Obama’s executive-branch nominees, including 11 in the last four months.

Earlier this year, for the first time ever, Republicans filibuster

Posted 393 days ago.

I've read Levin's remarks, I do not disagree with them. But the Republicans were not using the filibusters as responsible adults. Republicans are not there to govern, Republicans for some reason see government as the enemy, hence they cannot govern. Something had to give. Republicans were blocking nominees for personal political gain or blocking them simply to block them.

Posted 393 days ago.

"Look, jaxspp, I don't dislike you, "

I don't care whether you like me or not. In your mind anyone who disagrees has to be a fool or wrong. When I first saw your posts I though you were a notch above RS, who obviously is the court jester of this board, but you have grossly deteriorated down to his level.

Posted 393 days ago.

As far as voter fraud:

All you have to do is find me one instance where voter fraud was confirmed and it changed the outcome of the election.

Paranoid voter fraud in your mind does not count.

Posted 393 days ago.

"The net effect of this rule change has turned the minority party in the U.S. Senate into a figurehead. You cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, think that this is OK. "

No it didn't. They can still filibuster Supreme Court nominees and legislation.

I wanted to take a step back from you two nitwits to see the extent of what we are talking about. The GOP has filibustered twice as many nominees as the Dems did Bush. One of the nominees they are holding up is to replace Justice Roberts' old position, which was vacated 5 years ago. 5 years ago! At what point do you say stop it? Apparently with you two, there is no point.

Posted 393 days ago.

rshill7

By the way Jaxoliar. The GOP is legally barred from suing over voter fraud due to a consent decree they entered into with the DNC 31 years ago.

Look it up.

No voter fraud? BS.

"GOP Legally Barred From Fighting Voter Fraud."

I've posted this before. This is precisely why the GOP never sues over the constant voter fraud from the left. They can't.

Would they if they could? Oh yeah, all over the place.

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

Caligula had the support of the Roman Senate too...and the Praetorian Guard.

That backfired on his a-s-s, his neck, his chest, all over him. Lots of blades went through that dude, and he perished in an underground passage.

There are some political blades coming for some democrats and their leader.

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

Don't confuse the issue with facts. Jaxspp doesn't like facts.

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

"The Founding Fathers established filibuster as means of protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority." (Sen. Obama, 2005)

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

...Biden, Obama, and Reid included, among many others. Reid even railed against such a thing in a book he wrote.

But then again what they say yesterday has no bearing whatever on what they do today. Their words are worthless. It matters not a whit what they say, as their words, when strung together into promises, are worth infinitely less than a single vowel purchased from a Vanna White lookalike on The Wheel of Misfortune.

Oath breakers, obfuscators, Kings and Queens of cover-up, yet knaves, curs, and beyond the pale prevaricators. Jacks of all jerk-arounds, yet masters of mendacity. Surely there is some redeeming quality in them, right?

Nope.

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

...Biden, Obama, and Reid included, among many others. Reid even railed against such a thing in a book he wrote.

But then again what they say yesterday has no bearing whatever on what they do today. Their words are worthless. It matters not a whit what they say, as their words, when strung together into promises, are worth infinitely less than a single vowel purchased from a Vanna White lookalike on The Wheel of Misfortune.

Oath breakers, obfuscators, Kings and Queens of cover-up, yet knaves, curs, and beyond the pale prevaricators. Jacks of all jerk-arounds, yet masters of mendacity. Surely there is some redeeming quality in them, right?

Nope.

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

Occasionally a democrat can extricate himself from the collective donkey backside. It's an exceedingly rare anomaly. Sen Carl Levin (D-Michigan) and Sen Mark Pryor (D-Arkansas) spoke eloquently against this vote today, setting a precedent, regarding this precedent.

Levin is retiring in two months, and the Senator from Arkansas, is well, a Senator from Arkansas. Levin no longer has to prostitute himself to the democrat party...as much, any longer, and Pryor is from the south...worried about reelection.

I've heard from no other dissenting democrats today on the issue while viewing C-Span after the Reid rule change. Usually democrats have no ability to lead, and are content to wear the backside of the donkey costume and amble along blindly.

Some of the very folks who screamed bloody murder when the Republicans only threatened this a few years ago, now in hyper-hypocrite fashion support it as "necessary"...

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

"Today’s unfortunate vote damaged the Senate and was designed to try to change the topic from the millions of Americans losing their jobs and their healthcare because of Obamacare. Just like President Obama promised, ‘if you like your plan, you can keep it,’ so too Harry Reid repeatedly promised he would not use the ‘nuclear option’ to change the Senate rules. Both, sadly, ignored their promises and broke their word. And, in yet another partisan abuse of power, the Democrats are now shamelessly working to pack the DC Circuit, so that President Obama’s lawless disregard of our statutes and Constitution will not be held to account by an impartial judiciary." (Senator Ted Cruz)

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

The net effect of this rule change has turned the minority party in the U.S. Senate into a figurehead. You cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, think that this is OK.

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

"WIN AN ELECTION" - Won a few in the House of Reps.

This issue transcends populist B.S. Stop listening to the hyper-GOBGOB being blabbered about by both sides. Senator Levin has no dog in the fight other than the institution of the U.S. Senate and it's integrity.

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

Look, jaxspp, I don't dislike you, I disagree with you, but I don't dislike you. I enjoy baiting you into ludicrous arguments but this one is really serious.

Put all partisanship aside and read Levin's remarks. Harry Reid has at his disposal every tool he needs to force the filibuster, he has chosen not to use it.

Posted 394 days ago.

You guys want what you want, Obama spelled it out for you plainly: "WIN AN ELECTION".

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

"...instead of going after your own party for abusing the filibuster..."

READ LEVIN'S SPEECH!!! OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted 394 days ago.

rshill7

Your ideology will consign them to a life of subjugation under a tyrannical government.

You are a Fool.

Posted 394 days ago.

Freeman

Harry Reid promised, in January of this year, to enforce the rules regarding filibuster. He has not, to date, done it.

Read Senator Levin's oration. There are ways to force the filibuster that the democratic leadership just will not use.

Understanding the rules is key here, don't just pop off on a "populist" rant. I implore you to read Levin's speech.

Posted 394 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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