Stupak set to fight health bill
Pro-life Dem opposes public funds for abortion provisionPatty Ramus
As Congress continues to mull over health care reform legislation, U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak has concerns about language that would allow public funds to be used for abortion services.
On Thursday H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act was made public. Stupak said he was in the process of reading the bill but was disappointed the Capps Amendment remained intact in the bill which would mandate abortion services for the first time in the nation's history. He will continue to work with leadership to find satisfactory language on the issue.
"It's been my position for 20 years. I've always been a right-to-life Democrat," he said on Friday.
During an interview with C-SPAN earlier this week, Stupak said President Barack Obama has indicated there would be no public funding used for abortion procedures. The ban on using public funds to pay for abortion coverage has been federal law since 1976. He doesn't see why the issue is even being considered because it's already in the law.
"I for one would like to vote for health care but I really do have this hang up that we should not have public funding for abortion I don't think has any role to be in there," he said during the C-SPAN interview.
On Friday, Stupak said under H.R. 3962 every enrollee must pay $1 per month for reproductive services including prenatal and postnatal pregnancy and abortion services. If a family or individual receives affordability credits from the federal government to help pay for health care or small business credits, those credits could be used pay for abortion coverage.
The bill is available for review for a 72-hour period, which started Thursday and as early as 10:30 a.m. Monday the bill can be brought into the rules committee. The committee likely will give the bill another 72 hours and by Thursday or Friday it would be ready for a vote on the floor on a rule. A rule tells lawmakers what amendments can be considered and how long a bill can be debated.
Stupak is seeking an amendment that would state no public funds would be used for abortion services or those who receive federal funds could not buy policies with abortion coverage except in the case of life of the mother being in danger, rape or incest. He is the leader of opposition to the rule if they don't get the amendment. There are 40 House Democrats who have indicated they oppose language allowing federal funds to be used for abortion procedures, he said.
"If we don't get our amendment the only chance is to defeat the rule and then add your amendment. I'll be going against leadership," he said.
Stupak said he's working with a number of Senate members regarding abortion coverage language. There are two bills in the Senate that need to be put into one bill. Those bills have been as specific with the topic as the House bill.
Stupak said he wants to completely review the bill before making a final judgment on how he would vote on it.
Patty Ramus can be reached via e-mail at pramus@thealpenanews.com or by phone at 358-5687.
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surefoot
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11-03-09 6:02 PM
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Big corporations have their good and bad points; they produce goods that no small operation could, even the Amish benefit from it. What they need are rules to operate by this is one of the jobs of government. It is hard not to become part of this machine, The ones at top, from prestigious universities lead a live most of us will never know while the are middle class losing more of their buying power. I would think that after working and paying taxes the small people this country deserve at the least a heath plan run the government that is available to all USA citizens. Get rid of the middle man ( the medical insurance Co.) they produce nothing of value. Remember that the medial treatment and medicines were heavy supported by government funds.
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amos57usa
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11-03-09 6:49 AM
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ejlamb..Congratulations on the reasonable thoughts. If unwanted blastocysts become persons and are released from reform school they may grow up to be like excell's heroes Eric Rudolph and Tim Mcveigh. The Chrislicans complain that national health care is the government comming between a woman and her doctor while promoting that the government come between a woman and her doctor. Trying to reason with Glen Beck wannabees is futile.
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amos57usa
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11-03-09 6:29 AM
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excell..Right after telling us to stay on the topic (while not staying on the topic) you post an entire off topic paragraph. If you think some type of invisible god thingy exists then you are religious but I don't blame you for denying it. All the evidence suggests our progenitors were Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus. I fear that the Chrislicans will vote for someone even dumber than George..Sarah.
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surefoot
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11-02-09 2:47 PM
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ExcellTrinity- Your rants sound like a knee jerk statement, there is no doubt that all of tour information comes from some talk show. Hey, have bought their latest book they need more of your money, they would like to buy a mansion in Key West while the prices are down.
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ExcellTrinity
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11-02-09 11:34 AM
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Don't even try to defend your statement as meaning something else. I directly confronted the exact terms you stated in you comment. If you had meant different, you would have stated it. You need to realize that your way of thinking is the problem. You cannot take away 40,000,000 and expect to maintain a prosperous economy. Economics 101 gal! No way around it!
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ExcellTrinity
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11-02-09 11:31 AM
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Abortions prevent crime and recurrent poverty? You have got to be joking! So, you are absolutely saying that my children are RESPONSIBLE for all crime and all poverty. On the contrary lady! Poverty is directly attributed to abortion due to the drastic reduction of tax payers. Why do you think Social Security is broke? There is NOT ENOUGH COMING IN! You cannot kill off the population and expect fiscal growth. Our deficit is 7 times our GDP. Good try by blaming society's problems on babies. You are the problem lady...you!
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ejlambjr
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11-02-09 9:03 AM
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I agree with Mr. Stupak's abortion principles. However, I am not the only person affected by the Health Bill. After reading the book, Freakonomics, I had a much better understanding of the effect readily available abortions had on our society's ability to control crime and recurrent poverty. Many women cannot access health services without help. We should feel just as guilty of destroying human life if we condemn a woman to further poverty and society to further crime by denying her the opportunity to decide to correct her life and become a more responsible citizen. I support a comprehensive health bill over a biased one, even if it allows for procedures i would not use.
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jaxspp
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11-02-09 7:43 AM
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I know a nurse who is an operating room assistant in abortion surgeries. She has seen heads with no bodies, bodies with no heads, bodies without organs, heads with no brains, half heads, half bodies, bodies with no bones, and so on. What is the point of making a woman carry these for nine months? And potentially have to deliver them with a C-section? I'll gladly fund the abortion.
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Alesia
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11-02-09 5:14 AM
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First of all, Stupak does not want to deny your right to an abortion, you would just have to pay for it yourself just as you do now. Second, Stupak said if his ammendment is not added, he will still vote for the bill. So, to the writer of the story, find out all the facts before you submit your work for print. You have deceived the readers of Stupak's position.
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ExcellTrinity
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11-01-09 6:00 PM
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What, who...ummm...OK?
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audreypapke
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11-01-09 1:21 PM
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Let "her" know that "she has to work is the abuse of me. NO, I do not "have to" clean up your son. I'll work in store or someother clean place. You stay home and clean up your son/daughter.
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audreypapke
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11-01-09 1:17 PM
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I simply do not have to take care of others' children such that their male dad's can go to work. If the male dad makes a child he can stay home with his child. Or the child's mother. What this is about is that a few people have imagine that I could be forced to "clean up" their grown son's of whom are severely invalid - forced. I was cornered, harassed, threatened with starvation. Stay home and clean up your own son Debbie.
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audreypapke
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11-01-09 1:12 PM
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If a doctor and his staff doesn't lie to patients they make less money. How dare all of them. How dare them ruin what is left of my life. All for sake of liabilities that are not mine to pay.
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audreypapke
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11-01-09 1:11 PM
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Ovarian fibromas DO NOT someday become cancerous, and as a matter of fact, they are in the noncancerous class of tumors. Any problem they cause is remedied by simply removing the fibroma, regardless of its size. The woman IS NOT to be sujected to a hysterectomy or oopherectomy or castration. Simply remove the fibroma - not the prior surgical mess the doctor caused. Allow the woman to return to all normal activity, and yes, the woman is very normal. How dare that doctor lie to me and make such a mess of me and of my life, twice.
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audreypapke
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11-01-09 1:09 PM
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Am I going to be able to seek employment again without being bothered that someone's fully grown dependent requires constant grooming? We all have our own families. Take care of your dependent or place him or her in Tendercare. NO. There are not "women out there" to do that for you - tend to your family member.
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ExcellTrinity
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11-01-09 1:08 PM
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Correct amos! Religious people sometimes do serve on their knees. I'm not religious! Somehow you associate "meek" with "weak." In combat, a soldier becomes the ultimate defender once he realizes he is already dead. Nothing else matters from that point on. Fear disappears, and he becomes meek, respecting the enemy's capabilities and confronting him accordingly. But, you believe you are the spawn of some monkey. How "rational!" You "fear" christians! An insecure mental state for certain! Your hatred is eating at you like a cancer. I am however, commanded to pray for you.
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amos57usa
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11-01-09 6:37 AM
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excell..I have heard religious people already serve on their knees and I have come to save you. We rational people have neurons between our ears to stop thoughts and judge them. If you don't understand evolution it will continue to control you. Bart should be replaced asap.
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ExcellTrinity
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10-31-09 1:15 PM
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It went in one ear and out the other guys! I stand by my first comment. It's clear Audrey hates retarded children enough to kill them...I mean murder them. My son is Autistic and he has been the love of my life. You pinko pricks make me vomit. You're a sick person Audry! A real puke!
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surefoot
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10-31-09 10:59 AM
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I cut off the last word, it was (Tea Party)
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surefoot
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10-31-09 10:54 AM
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Excel Trinity -- This is the honest truth. On seeing a neighbor I asked if she was playing hooky from work. Here an abbreviation of what she said. She has not been working for two months because of a mental breakdown at work and has been on worker’s compensation. Her husband has been out of work for nine months he was fired for claming time not worked, luckily he had still gotten his claim. Because of their bills they qualified for food stamps. She now was ready to return to work as a secretary in steps like two days a week (as recommended by her doctor) but the hospital was bulking at still paying her full time and wanted to reclassify her at a lower pay, she filed a grievance with the union, and would get an attorney if necessary. She said that she was already making less because of health insurance premiums increase. Luckily their daughter had returned home and she was getting food stamps too and that helped them to. NOW for the oxymoron, she asked if I wanted to go to the Tea Par
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audreypapke
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10-31-09 9:56 AM
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Your son is in a wheelchair and wonders which female is going to take care of him? Send a male over to take care of him. Bother me about his personal life, medical concerns, meals - and I'll call the cops.
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audreypapke
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10-31-09 9:31 AM
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Your sister can't take care of herself? That is what Tendercare is for. Either take care of your adult sister - or place her in Tendercare. Bother me about her and I'll call the cops. Audrey Papke
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audreypapke
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10-31-09 9:30 AM
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You didn't imagine I'd live on that wage, I'm sure. You didn't imagine I'd live my life confined, I'm certain of that. You didn't imagine I'm cleaning the constant messes, and of that I'm 200% certain. You didn't imagine I'm sacrificing for your decision to have had unprotected marital sex, something I owe no male or female. You people have to learn. Either use the rythm method - self control. If you choose to carry a severely retarded fetus, either the husband or wife has job security - 50 years at home with the result of their choice to pro-create. I didn't make you two have unprotected sex. The result of your choice to have a good time - during the time the rythm method would not prevent pregancy - is not ruining my life.
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audreypapke
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10-31-09 9:27 AM
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My daughter had a pleasantly debilitated son. He has very mild cerebral palsy from a stroke incurred pre-birth or during one of his series of complex open-heart surgeries. His mother absolutely adores him. She stays home with Kaden. She does not "expect" the state to starve and beat a female - make her stay home with her decision to become pregant and to carry the child. She doesn't use this whine excuse that she "can't afford to stay home." She, like anyone else, could use the extra money, though her husband is a wonderful provider. Take me, for instance. I can't afford not to work. Yet someone deneid me work because they decided they could not stay home to work. Lady, it isn't my child who belongs in the care facility and I'm not living on public insurance because you whine that spoiled "you" can't afford to take care of what is your "free house payment commodity." You would place him in a facility where he belongs only "you
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audreypapke
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10-31-09 9:22 AM
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I strongly believe publics funds should be used to help fund abortions. It is reprehensible that a couple would choose not to use the rythm method of birth control - irresponsibly bringing into the world another child that when and if the child is severely invalid/retarded neither the husband or wife will even bother to stay home with. Either stay home with the result of your choice to have unprotected marital sex - meaning stay home with your child when it is born severely defective - or abort - or place the child into a care facility - especially when the child reaches age eighteen. Do not imagine for one minute there are "women" out there to take care of your adult child - your "free" house payment. It is my right and choice to abort if I become pregnant and carry a severely defective fetus - one so defective I would find the contrant grooming of it to be offensive. I do know this: if I was going to be born severely retarded I would hope that my mothe
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