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APS to host information meetings on enhancement millage

January 11, 2013

Alpena Public Schools is seeking additional operating funds through a request for additional millag....

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rshill7

Jan-15-13 8:11 PM

You've contributed nothing here. Haven't even taken a position on anything, other than the position of placing all your confidence in some blogger at the Washington Post and hoping some readers might "go with" you.

Being an opinion lacking vacuum does not a positive changer make. Neither does being a liar.

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lfitzpatrick

Jan-15-13 7:39 PM

I think the readers of this paper can determine who is more sane and rational in this conversation and go with the person they find more believable. I will let you spend your day grinding dumbasses. I am busy trying to make positive changes in my community.

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rshill7

Jan-15-13 12:40 PM

What point? You never had one.

Come into the Reader's Forum some time.

That's where I grind up dumb-a-s-s-e-s and liars into gristle and bone.

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lfitzpatrick

Jan-15-13 10:44 AM

I think your rants and rudeness better support my point than if I continued on myself. The floor is yours, good day to you.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 8:27 PM

Last line correction: I would like to see ~someone~ make the attempt though.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 8:25 PM

Here's another quote from former NEA official John Lloyd: "You cannot possibly understand NEA without understanding Saul Alinsky. If you want to understand NEA, go to the library and get 'Rules for Radicals'."

Alinsky dedicated that book to "Lucifer". Yes, that Lucifer, also known as Satan.

And here is more of the Bob Chanin (NEA's top lawyer) quote from the same talk about union power: "And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues each year, because they believe that we are the unions that can most effectively represent them, the unions that can protect their rights and advance their interests as education employees."

Between the DOE and teacher unions, our schools are nothing but cesspools of left-wing indoctrination. I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to defend them. I'd like to see make the attempt though.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 7:48 PM

As I said before, I heard the NEA attorney's quote with my ears and saw it at the same time with my eyes as the words exited his mouth.

The first one was also widely reported. You said both quotes were inaccurate. Neither are inaccurate. In other words they are both true and you are a liar.

Using a "blog" from the Washington Post, which doesn't even mention one of the quotes I used hardly strikes them down as inaccurate.

And why are you calling me "Mr. Hill"? That is not my name.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 7:38 PM

You're a liar. How's that for a name, dingbat?

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lfitzpatrick

Jan-14-13 2:25 PM

Yes, Mr Hill I do like the second quote because it was accurate and changed the whole meaning of the quote. Not sure exactly how name calling supports your point. I am not and have never been a member of a teachers union, so I am not sure why you assigned me the job of protecting teachers unions. I was sparked by your comments to spend a moment to find out if they were actually true and accurate. It took only a few moments to find out otherwise. The context of a union official quoting a school board certainly is different then a union official saying something himself isn't it? Best of luck to you, enjoy your day, I think it helps us to discuss and fact check things presented as fact.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 11:33 AM

The other longer quote from the NEA attorney I heard with my own ears dingbat!

How did I do that? I watched an actual video recording of him saying it.

Now, please grace us with your rendition of how wonderful teacher's unions are.

Dingbat.

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rshill7

Jan-14-13 11:30 AM

Meridian Star is the footnote reference.

He also said this, which your "blog" confirms with the help of "Wicki" :-)

"Typically the school board said this: ‘You’re a union. We’ll be happy to talk with you about the salaries and working conditions teachers want. But we will not talk to you about anything that’s good for children, because you weren’t elected to represent the children. Professional issues are not subject to negotiation'.?"

Do you like that quote?

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lfitzpatrick

Jan-14-13 11:11 AM

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lfitzpatrick

Jan-14-13 11:10 AM

rshill7, If you are going to quote people it is probably fair to include the person's name and citation for the source of your quote. These are both quoted incorrectly.

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rshill7

Jan-12-13 4:04 PM

...You can see that from their own words as well as their results.

Cut. Them. Out.

If you are a teacher, opt out yourself starting in April. Choke the giant union parasite right out of existence, and let's get on with the business of education.

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rshill7

Jan-12-13 4:03 PM

"The 1994 Proposal A law does not permit any other way for local public school districts to raise additional funds." (quote from article)

Well then, change that law, or cut costs. One good way to cut costs is to cut the teacher's union completely out of the deal.

Have you seen the NEA President's quote: "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."

Or this one by NEA's top lawyer: "It is not because we care about children and it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power.”

Unions have been destroying the education of our children for far too long. Many unionized teachers are fine people and would love to teach. They have been forced to be part of these unions to work. The union itself though doesn't give a darn about the kids.

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